Honest answer - No. Repeat until you've got em all. Overall, I think alliances in EU4 are more sensible, the AI is better (you are less likely to have the Baltic region torn up between like 5 powers who randomly decided to paint that part of the map), and I like the development system although it is hilarious how PLC gets more starting development than France. Again some people love it, I don't. It’s almost hard to believe that Europa Universalis IV is seven years old. Cookies help us deliver our Services. It's still a good game but missing so many quality-of-life features of EU4 that it's hard to go back. If you pick the +1 morale idea, you instantly have +1 morale, no added cost. Overall it is a great game but is definitely overshadowed by its newer sibling. Common Sense did away with the godawful carpet siege. I think I'll wait until a sale and then I will buy only the dlc which effects the game in a meaningful way (ignoring cosmetic and music dlc), I may buy the Empires Starter pack since that sounds like it has some good DLC. So be careful which one you buy. Can't believe nobody has mentioned the funky nomadic nation mechanics yet. 4. A strategy I used often was to wait around until I get musket soldiers (tech 18, I think?) Any missions and events that give you claims in EU4 gave you cores in EU3. Other than that, though, I personally can't think of any ways in which it's better than EU4. That's the compromise, I think it's fair. Edit: I say this having purchased all the current DLC as it came out. I think it's a great starter nation and that's the nation that I'm learning still learning on. Absolutely! Those will cost you $35 together, plus $39 for the game. and just go ham on Burgundy and France since they're around 15-16 at this point. Press J to jump to the feed. Question. P.S. I loved EU3 for its time. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. What's your opinion on the matter? aside from this forum which is very helpful there is also a Discord Channel that is also very helpful. Pirate game. Also, if I do get it, I hear there is a strong learning curve, so which nations/starts should I start with that are easier to play as and will allow me to learn more about the gameplay? I'd give anything for a new Victoria. A final giant trade DLC would be amazing. is an endless stream of game retrospectives. I loved EU3 and continued to play it for a long time after EU4 came out. Ottomans are usually recommended to start since they have the second strongest start(and unlike Ming, the strongest, aren't so ridicilously OP that you have to put almost no thought into anything). Infamy was a thing. I have since tried going back and playing it again but I always stop. And oh God the cascading alliances. I'm new to strategy games and would really like to play a paradox game, particularly eu4, but I've always heard the same thing about DLC, which is put out continuously, is expensive, and almost mandatory to play the game as it updates. extortion requires obtaining something through force, purchasing dlc is a mutual exchange between willing parties. I'm very addicted to it although it is a steep learning curve once you get the hang of it it is definitely worth it. Have You Played? Likewise culture and religion flipped on their own in a randomized fashion, and while this was less manageable than in EU4 it also felt more realistic. I still think there are a few things that EU3 does better: Government type actually makes a big difference and gives you clear goals to work towards; There are fewer ideas but they have much bigger impact; Steppe hordes are terrifying in the early game, though if you can beat them you can also expand super quickly; You can make your own trade centers and subtly influence the prices of commodities through your development (like, building a barracks somewhere will slightly increase the demand for grain); Your progress is less heavily tied to your king's abilities. It had potential. Close. Europa Universalis IV. Some franchises and games of note: Stellaris, Europa Universalis, Imperator: Rome, Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron, Victoria and Cities: Skylines. I played the demo for a couple of hours around release, and bought it. Wait until a Steam sale, get the base game plus Art of War and Common Sense (the two "essential" expansions), and dive in.